A General Guide to Dark Age of Camelot gameplay mechanics.

Uthgard Ranged Test Summary

This page is divided into three sections. The first section will list the equipment and players used in the testing along with any relevant stats that may have affected results. The second section lists the actual results for each test presented in table forms. The third section will consist of commentary on my part and my conclusions using sources to explain the results and comment on how the actual game mechanics should be implemented on uthgard in relation to live daoc as of 1.80 patch and prior.


Note: All calculations at this time are going to be based off of the estimated 100-141% variance range that I have found supporting information on through wyrd's/artemis's test logs as opposed to the commonly used (and even mythic grab bag) sources from the web in regard to the 100-150% theories until otherwise proven wrong.

Note: When reviewing the tables below, keep in mind that max damage to a player cannot exceed the capped amount. Max damage listings here may appear to exceed the cap but this is only for calculating the effects of resistances; for example a player with 25% resistance is hit for 600 damage but the attackers cap was 300. The player is hit for 300 (-150). If the player was hit for 350 damage, they would take 262 (-88). Uncapped max damage is listed in the tables to show the effects of higher weaonskill on the damage range. The higher damage range is what is responsible for players being able to achieve capped hits on certain types of targets, even with high resistances.

All attack logs were between 900-1100 hit samples with the exception of the cloth control test.

A BIG Thank You goes out to all testers who generously donated their time, and effort into working with me to take these logs. Without these people, this would not have been possible!

Attacker:



Level 50 lurikeen Ranger

Stats are 256 quickness, 269/278 dexterity, 196 strength

Realm rank 2




Testing subjects were level 50 , firbolg warden Holzmichel, shar mentalist Crassus and lurikeen mentalist, Erlia; Level 50 non realm rank 50 celt blademaster Rando; celt druid lueckiline, Ame level 50 celt hero, firbolg hero Tir, shar hero Shaden, and an elf nightshade, Vlarie all with 0 thrust resist (with exception of vlarie who has 3% elf racial thrust resist only).



Testing Player Crafted weapons were as follows



duskwood heavy recurve bow
16.5 dps (16.0 effective dps)
5.5 Speed
99% quality
35% bonus

All tests were done using Barbed Footed Flight Broadhead arrows (thrust damage)



Test Subject Player Crafted Armors Were as follows





Cloth

AF 51 (49 effective af)

99% quality

0% bonus



Leather

AF 102 (108 effective af)

99% quality

0% bonus



Reinforced

AF 102 (117 effective af)

99% quality

0% bonus



Scale

AF 102 (125 effective af)

99% quality

0% bonus

Uthgard Normal Shot Testing

	Weapon Spec	Item Bonus	Realm Rank	Weaponskill	Strength	Dexterity	Target's AF buff	Target's Absorption Buff	Target's AF Total	Target's Armor Type	Observed Min Damage	Observed Max Damage	Total Hits	Total Attacks	Predicted Min Damage	Predicted Max Damage	Predicted Cap Damage	Observed Cap
Control Test (No AF buff)	12	11	2	1271		278	0	0	257	Cloth	412	448	0	Around 400-500 attacks total.	447	916	444	448
Control Test (AF buff)	12	11	2	1271		278	250	0	507	Cloth	210	355	0	0	226	464	444	448
Bow vs Cloth (AF Buff On)	39	11	2	1525		278	250	0	507	Cloth	329	465	0	0	495	698	494	Add your content here
Bow vs Cloth (AF & ABS Buff On)	39	11	2	1525		278	250	10%	507	Cloth	296	419	0	0	445	628	494	Add your content here
Bow vs Leather	39	11	2	1525		278			550	Leather	298 (-9) / 307 actual	421(-12) / 433 actual	0	0	410	579	494	Add your content here
Bow vs Reinforced	39	11	2	1525		278			595	Reinforced	277	394	0	0	341	482	494	Add your content here
Bow vs Reinforced 2	50	11	2	1853		337	5		635	Reinforced	321	453	0	0	405	571	514	518
Bow vs Scale 1	39	11	2	1493		269			635	Scale	244	345	0	0	282	398	494	Add your content here
Bow vs Scale 2	39	11	2	1525		278			635	Scale	249	352	0	0	288	407	494	Add your content here

Bow Weaponskills by Spec and Dexterity Amount
This is a chart I made listing ws values on uthgard so as to have a comparison with live ws values. I believe that uthgard ws values are higher per point than live values, yet uthgard bow damage seems to remain substantially lower.

Bow Weaponskills

Bow Weaponskills (excel version)

Live Server Data

Add your content here	Weapon Spec	Item Bonus	Realm Rank	Weaponskill	Strength	Dexterity	Target's AF buff	Target's Absorption Buff	Target's AF Total	Target's Armor Type	Observed Min Damage	Observed Max Damage	Predicted Cap	Predicted Min Damage	Predicted Max Damage
Phar0z Test	45	11	3	1825 (value pulled from using haldars ws calculator)		350	0	0	635	Scale	229 with light arrows -15% damage 337 with broadhead arrows +25% damage	316 with light arrows -15% damage 465 with broadhead arrows +25% damage	344 (using -15% light damage arrows) 506 (using 25% broadhead damage arrows)	240 (using -15% light damage arrows) 354 (using +25% damage broad head arrows)	339 (using -15% light damage arrows) 499 (using +25% damage broadhead arrows )
QuaiWaldsterben Test	39	11	4	1482		269	0	0	595	Reinforced	365 328 without relic?	506 455 without relic?	493	332	468
Slitz Test	35	11	8	1911 Used haldars calc to simulate ranger having slightly better dex buff than hunter.	.	390 Ranger indicated having 50 spec nurture buffs, will theorize stats are slightly better than hunter.	0	0	606	Studded	456	532	513	436	616
Stardoag Test	40	11	7	1901		373	51		between 595-606 AF	Reinforced	427 or 384 assuming if 10% relic bonus actually applies to bow damage	527 or 474 assuming that 10% relic bonus applies to bow damage	458	388 at 606 af	547 at 606 af
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Commentary

Click the links below to view the methodology behind how the values found in the previous charts were derived.

Uthgard Normal Shot Testing

Control Test (No AF buff)

Control Test (AF Buff On)

Bow vs Cloth (AF Buff On)

Bow vs Cloth (AF & ABS Buff On)

Bow vs Leather

Bow vs Reinforced

Bow vs Reinforced 2

Bow vs Scale 1

Bow vs Scale 2

Live Server Data



The following comes from research exploring live server logs taken prior to TOA. Links to the original sources will be provided for each section.

Phar0z' Test

QuaiWaldsterben Test

Slitz' Test

Stardoag' Test

Conclusions

These conclusions are being based upon current data. As I update information,add new logs I may possible uncover new things to report or find information that may change my interpretation of the data.

It is my opinion from looking at the live logs and comparing them to uthgard data there is an indication of a significant difference between the damage potential of archers that were on the live servers. In looking at the example of the Slitz test where presumably at around 1900 weaponskill, the max damage potential for his attacks were 532 damage in the logs. Taking uthgard's testing using 1525 skill (roughly 26% less than slitz) we see a max damage potential of 394, a difference of 36 damage on the same type of armor if we consider every percentage increase in ws as a percent increase in damage. Given that the total max range of slitz's damage is unknown it is evident that there is at least "some" difference in the damage range, if not a great distance.

The best estimations that I can give are using the general purpose base damage calculation formula for which would indicate that the damage potential for archers is, and should be, much greater than what is currently implemneted on uthgard. The following is a list of the armor types studied and the differentiations , listed as a percentage, between the observed values on uthgard and the predicted
values using the general bow damage formula calculations. The observation is that there is a distinct linear pattern to damage scaling in that the higher armor factor class the target is, the less differentiation there is between the expected values for that range and the observed. What this means is that in comparison, an archer is doing less damage per shot on a 'soft' target like cloth, than to a 'hard' target such as scale or chain armor.

For results under 1525 weaponskill at 278 dexterity:

Cloth armor with only AF buff on has observed ranges of
329 - 465. Predicted ranges fall between 495 - 698, which results in a difference of about 50% in damage potential with the observed and predicted values.

Cloth armor with absorption buff and AF buff on has ranges 296 - 419 which are dramatically different when compared to the expected ranges of 445 - 628. These would require a 50% increase in damage potential to reach expected values for this type of armor/buff situation.


Leather armor ranges on uthgard from 307 - 433 on the observed data. Its predicted range of 410 - 579, requires roughly a 34% increase to fall into expected ranges.

The max range of damage for reinforced on uthgard at 1525 weaponskill is 277 - 394. The predicted damage at where it should be if it were on live server using the same weaponskill is 341 - 482, around a 22% increase.

For scale armor the difference is the least pronounced where the uthgard observed values range from 249 - 352 and the predicted come to 288 - 407 requring only a 16% increase to fall into expected ranges.



For results under 1853 weaponskill at 337 dexterity:

For reinforced The max range of damage on uthgard at 1853 weaponskill is 321 - 453 on a target with 635 AF. The predicted min and max are 405 and 571, indicating a difference of 21-22% damage between the predicted and observed.

In using the predicted values because for those, a percentage increase in weaponskill results in a similar increase in damage. Almost all of the predicted data conforms to the values found in the logs from various tests, thus adding weight to the theory that the predicted values are perhaps the nearest to the correct ones to use for bow damage calculation on uthgard.